New LED Light Panels – First Glance

I couldn't make it out to the studio just yet, so I decided to shoot a 'First Glance' video of the new LED Light Panels hitting the market. This one in the video is the 1200 LED version, but they are available in 600 and 900 LED counts. Some versions are available with V-mount battery adapters and all lights are dimmable. We ran some color temperature tests just using the meters in the Sony EX1 and they had excellent results being 5600K and 3100K with the provided tungsten (yellow) filter.

I'll have to do a side by side comparison, but the 600 LED version of this new panel is said to throw light further than the older (more popular) 1000 LED panels. The 1200 LED panel i'm playing with here is 'extremely' light weight. Much easier to pack, travel, and handle than the other versions. Uh and FYI, I'm considering posting my (3)pcs 500 LED kit online very soon to upgrade to more of these. When that happens, you'll find it in the Cheesycam Classifieds.

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find-price-button 600 Led Light Weight Studio Photo Light Dimmable Video Photography Lighting Sony V mount Battery adapter 14.8V DC 110V-230V

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find-price-button 900 LED Dimmable Photography Video Camera DSLR 5400K/3200K Lighting Light Panel Sony V Mount battery Adapter INCLUDED 14V OUTPUT 110V-230V


1200-LED-Video-Panel
find-price-button 1200 LED Dimmable Video Light Panel Still Photography Studio Portrait Lighting 24V DC, 110V-230V

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Should the available US links (above) be out of stock, then you can find them over seas (below)
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find-price-button eBay 600 LED, 900 LED, and 1200 LED Dimmable Video lights







30 thoughts on “New LED Light Panels – First Glance

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  2. David

    Thanks Emm. I already bought a 600 so I think I will add a 900 and a 1200 to my arsenal and that should give the lighting I need.

  3. Emm

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    @David - You won't regret getting the 1200's for the price, but the 900's were just a tad bit smaller and easier to travel with. If anything I would decided between the 900 and 1200's for larger spaces. The 600's are great for interview style three point lighting.

  4. David

    Emm,

    I am in the market for these LED's. I will be shooting my short films indoors during the daytime. Will 3 of the 600's be enough or should I get a 1200 in there as well? There will be a few shots where you will see the entire living room and kitchen.

  5. Emm

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    @Manny - I think the ones being sold through Amazon are the cheapest you'll find. The ones on eBay are more expensive: 600 Led Light Weight Studio Photo Light Dimmable Video Photography Lighting with Dimmer Control Sony V mount Battery adapter 14.8V DC 110V-230V

    These are heavier light stands that go up 9 ft. I've had Arri 650's & 1000's on these no problem: ePhoto Professional Photography 9ft Air Cushion Column Light Stands Air Cushion Photo Studio Light Stand by ePhotoINC 806A

    But if you want super light weight these go 7ft. The panels are really lightweight too: Light duty 7ft light stand Photography Studio Video light stands

  6. Manny

    also forgot forgot to ask if you know of a reliable ebay seller where i can purchase these from... thanks again

  7. Emm

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    @Manny - (3) lights is ideal, for three point lighting setups during interviews. I suggest (3) 600 LED panels if you could afford it. You won't regret it...LOL.

  8. Manny

    Emm,

    Im considering purchasing 3 of the 600 models, I will be shooting inside a studio, we will be doing product reviews..i have a vinyl banner as my back drop and subject is in front with a table sitting down... now do you think 3 600's is an overkill for lighting or will i be ok with only doing 2 900... i want to make sure i get good lighting but don't want to be an overkill...Im very new to this so any advice would be awesome thanks

  9. andrew00

    Hey Emm,

    How do you feel this purchase ranks compared to something like the new Cool Lights 1200 LED, whose daylight/dimmable model is nearly twice the price, and whose bi-colour model is a bit more still.

    It's hard to decide where it's worth paying more for the 'investment' and where is wasting money.

    a

  10. I recently purchased the 600 & 900 LED version of this light. The beam angle is indeed a fairly narro 30 degrees. The included diffusion is pretty weak and doesn't seem to affect the light that much. It barely softens the multiple shadows and doesn't spread the light much at all. In fact all the included filters are pretty so-so. The tungsten is too orange, and the minus green is slightly off as well. Strangely, the bare led color temp actually seems closer to 5600 than the literature would have you believe (it says 5400), however there is a bit of a green spike. I'm planning on just cutting gel squares and using the diffuser panel to hold them in. The color rendition is better than the yongnuo 160s I recently tried.

    As for the question about LED vs Fresnel? Apples and Oranges. I wouldn't pick one over the other. LEDs are great for lighting people/objects when you can't see their shadow. Or if you need low heat and portability. But to me, they aren't nearly as flexible as a fresnel in regards to the different ways you can use them.

  11. Tom

    In the video above I do see a slight greenish tinge on the white shelves and other white things when the light is turned on, as compared to the natural light from the window. It's impossible to tell if that is a room effect or the lights, but it does make me think there might be a good reason for that magenta filter they include. It looks to have a little bit of diffusion built in, but not much.

    Emm, please make sure you try the magenta filter in your full review of these lights and see if you can compare them again with a known-good 5500k source.

    I learned that what a lot of people do with these types of lights is to attach some sort of diffusion material to the front of the barndoors, so that the barndoors essentially form the sides of something resembling a softbox. That is one time when having silverized barndoors would be useful, which these don't seem to have, but there's always aluminum foil :-)

    My googling about LED half life seems to indicate that it's mainly dependent on heat, that if the fixture runs cool then the bulbs could have a half life measured in tens of thousands of hours, but if there is a lot of heat then it could be measured in weeks or even days. It looks like these lights have good heatsinks built in and lots of holes for airflow so that should not be a big issue.

    Emm if you want a creative project, see if you can figure out how to make a wider more softbox like light out of these. And for bonus points see if you can figure out how to narrow the light to more of a spotlight/fresnel/snoot type pattern.

    Great work on bringing these to our attention!

  12. Emm

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    @Paulyfuntimes - It could be close. Maybe just slightly off but not as bad as using other types of bulbs.

  13. Paulyfuntimes

    Hey Emm,
    I just picked up a 500 of the Older LED lights.
    Would these be ok to mix with one of those?

    thanks
    -Paul

  14. Tom

    Sorry for making so many posts, but I'm obsessed with these LEDs 😉

    After reading the coollights blog entries on CRI and some DVInfo postings, I think I can partially answer some of the questions I posed:

    1. The "pink" (my word) filter is probably really a light magenta filter ("less green"). The purpose of such a filter is typically to reduce the green spike that LEDs have, not to change the color temperature as the chinese translated ebay page said. So the color temp may be say 5500k without the filter and 5500k with the filter, but without the filter has a green spike.

    2. The reason that softboxes for LEDs are so rare is that a significant part of what makes LEDs so efficient is their directivity due to the built in lense. Softboxes work best with "bare bulb" type light sources where the light comes from all directions, but LED panels might be too focused to work well with a softbox. Diffusion material could be added to make an LED work in a softbox, but then you would lose a stop or two in output, making the LED much dimmer and less cost-competitive with a flourescent for soft light. So for wide light sources LEDs are still not the technology of choice.

    3. It is indeed likely that the LEDs have 30 degree angle; that seems to be the most common for LED lights. 60 degree LED panels have less throw and so are probably less competitive in the markets for which these lights are designed.

  15. Tom

    Another thing I notice in the ebay auctions: Apparently the pink filter included is a "CC(Green)-Minus filter to meet exactly 5500K for LED". So does this mean I have to use this filter to get 5500k, and if so how much does it reduce the light output? And how do I control diffusion if there is no space in the track to also use the diffusion plastic filter at the same time?

  16. Tom

    I did notice they include a diffusion panel with these, so perhaps it really is 30 degrees, and the panel widens it to something approximating 60. Of course I realize that these angles are sort of meaningless because there are no hard edges, but I'm assuming there is some sort of standard like "X% of the light falls within the number of degrees".

  17. Tom

    I just read the ebay auction for the 600 version, and it said the angle is 30 degrees. Hmm, that's surprising.

  18. Tom

    I happened to be in the ephotovideo B&M store the other day and saw these in person. I must admit I'm drooling. I was going to buy flourescents for about half the price, but these look like they put out more light than the equivalent flourescent models, and the color rendering looked a bit less green to my eyes, although Kino tubes would probably solve the CRI issue for flourescent. So now I'm deciding whether to get these instead.

    The one issue I have though is what to do when wanting a softbox type large light source. These LED panels are tiny in comparison with the flourescents, so how do you get really soft light? There is a reason that studios use big softboxes. I've seen an LED lightbox on the coollights website IIRC, but I doubt it would be compatible with these.

    Another question I have is how to focus the light into a smaller beam. I found that closing the barndoors down causes a venetian blind effect because of the LED spacing, not acceptable. I would think it would be possible to make a big handmade snoot, and perhaps lots of diffusion material near the LEDs would solve the venetian issue at the expense of light output.

    Emm, do you happen to know if the beam width of these is rated... some LEDs are rated at 30 degrees and some at 60 degrees. My sense is that they are more like 60 degrees because the light is not very focused at all, but I'd like verification.

    Something else I wonder about is half life of LEDs. Like all bulbs, LEDs are brightest when brand new, and become more dim with time. I wonder if that could be why these looked brighter than the older LED panels that were probably sitting around turned on in the shop all day for a while. Probably not, but something to think about.

    Anyway, these really do look like a find.

  19. Emm

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    @Pat - If you need a flood of light it should work fine. Ill try to get more samples next time i get to the studio.

  20. Joe G

    @Emm - Yeah I think I might go for these LED's, they seem more versatile in every way, as cool as the Arri's might look.

    Thanks for the quick reply and info!

  21. entienne01

    Emm, when you get a chance can you do a comparison between the 1000 & 1200 LEDs? I found a local reseller in LA for the 1000 LED w/dimmer and V-mount for cheaper than I've been able to find on-line and trying to see if it's worth the price difference. Thanks in advance.

  22. Emm

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    @Joe G - The 'As Arri' most likely puts out more light, but also more heat, and draws more power. These LED lights might not be able to compete with light output, but these LEDs are dimmable, 'As Arri' is not (without buying seperate dimmer). These LEDs can be used close to a subject without diffusers and modifiers and generate not heat that would otherwise cause a subject to sweat (or melt). The LEDs also don't require much power and have the option to be used via Battery pack. Using Halogen type lighting sometimes needs to be calculated to ensure you're not going to blow a house breaker. LED panels probably just draw basic wattage similar to a Light Bulb.

  23. eiker_ir

    great video, thanks :). I was about to get one of the 3 500 Led kits they have on Amazon but this looks like the overall better option now.

    They don't come with stands right?

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