CAME-TV CAME-SINGLE + PilotFly H1 + NEBULA 4000 Comparisons

Here's a video going over some of the feature of the new CAME-TV CAME-SINGLE, PilotFly H1+, and Nebula 4000 3-Axis Gimbal Stabilizers. Let me start by letting you know there are no sample videos from these gimbals. So you don't have to waste your time here.

At this time, I see no reason making a comparison video for each one since each of these are very capable of providing very stable footage. It depends highly on your camera + lens choice, PID tuning, and balance. So regardless which gimbal you choose, you can technically end up with similar results. In this video i'm mainly going over the design and features of the CAME-SINGLE and PilotFly H1+.

Starting with the NEBULA 4000, it's definitely outdated compared to the other two and not as easy to balance. But if you're on a tight budget, the Nebula 4000 has gone down in price and many used systems for auction (here).

If you're looking for something more current, and running the latest gimbal software, your best bet would probably be between the PilotFly H1+ and CAME-SINGLE, so let's first go over some of the similarities.

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Gimbal Controller
Both gimbals are running 32 Bit Dual IMUs and full 3-axis stabilization. Both offer an On/OFF button and a separate button for you to change modes / profiles. You can customize your profiles through the Basecam software.

Accessory Mounts
Both the PilotFly H1+ and CAME-SINGLE have a threaded mount under the handle for you to attach the system to a monopod, which is handy when getting elevated shots. The H1+ has a single 1/4" thread while the CAME-SINGLE has both a 1/4" and 3/8". The CAME-SINGLE also has one more 1/4" thread on the side of the handle for mounting an additional accessory such as a monitor.

Travel Case
The Pilotfly H1 comes with a soft custom foam cut case. The CAME-SINGLE comes with a medium sized custom foam cut Hard Case.

Physical Size
Comparing the physical size of the gimbal frame, the CAME-SINGLE is capable of supporting larger cameras than the H1. So if you have a compact camera, the Pilotfly H1+ looks like a great option. If you want to play around with different camera and lens combinations, the CAME-SINGLE would be more flexible. The CAME-TV is about 14 ounces heavier than the PilotFly H1+.

CAME-SINGLE (left) vs PilotFly H1+ (right)
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CAME-SINGLE Gimbal PilotFly H1 Gimbal

Inverted Mode
The PilotFly can be used 'inverted' (upside down), while the CAME-SINGLE cannot be used inverted. The handle must remain below the gimbal frame.

PID Tuning
The PilotFly has Bluetooth built in so you can change the PID wirelessly with an Android device. The CAME-SINGLE does not have bluetooth, and needs to be reprogrammed using a USB cable to a computer or Windows Tablet.

Balancing Adjustments
The PilotFly H1+ requires a hex tool to make adjustments while balancing, while the CAME-SINGLE is completely tool-less and also offers a quick-release camera plate.

Battery Power
The PilotFly H1+ has an internal rechargeable battery which should be fine if you don't need to fly all day and have the down-time to recharge. This could be a problem if you can't afford to set the H1 aside to recharge during the day. The CAME-SINGLE uses (2) 18650 rechargeable batteries, and allows you to swap them out as needed so you have no limitations. The system comes with (4) batteries so you'll already have one spare set.

Joystick Controls
The PilotFly H1+ only offers a Single-Axis Joystick so you can only control one axis (Pitch, Roll, Yaw) at a time. The CAME-SINGLE offers a Two-Axis Joystick so you can choose to control two different axis (Pan + Tilt, Tilt + Roll, Pan + Roll, etc.).

Brushless Motors
The CAME-SINGLE has encoders built in with the motors. This is similar to how the DJI Ronin tracks it's motor positions. This feature is new in 2015 for Alexmos based gimbals, and the CAME-SINGLE has this already built in. The ability to quickly change camera position on the CAME-SINGLE can be handy in the field, especially when you need to adjust your horizon. To adjust the horizon on the H1 would take a bit more effort. The software for gimbals with encoders could only get better for more stable systems. Since the PilotFly H1+ does not have encoders built in, future firmware improvements cannot be applied to the H1+.

My Thoughts
Overall the CAME-SINGLE has more advantages except for the fact that it's 14 ounces heavier, and cannot travel as compact as the PilotFly H1+. Essentially you can achieve similar results between both. For those working with smaller and lighter camera setups, the H1+ may be more appealing. Keep in mind that smaller setups can be used with either system, if you don't mind the size difference. Larger camera setups should definitely look more towards the CAME-SINGLE.

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CAME-TV CAME-SINGLE 32 Bit Dual IMU Gimbal w/ Encoders
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79 thoughts on “CAME-TV CAME-SINGLE + PilotFly H1 + NEBULA 4000 Comparisons

  1. Ken

    Pilotfly has just introduced the H2, available for pre-ordering and shipping in 3 weeks:
    http://pilotfly.com.tw/index.php?id_product=11&controller=product&id_lang=3
    http://copter-rc.com/en/catalog/80-pilotfly-h2-3axis-stabilizer-for-dslr-mirrorless-camera.html

    Emm, I don't suppose there's any chance that you've had an advance copy and can add anything to what's shown on those pages? I also read on their Facebook page that the QR place is ARCA-compatible, which I believe is a first for any of these single-handle gimbals. The specs sound pretty much perfect for what I was looking for, with the exception of the Li-Po batteries. I wish they'd have used Li-Ons instead, as I have an unreasonable fear of Li-Po's. But if I accept that, this seems to be the one I'm going to get.

  2. Xavier

    Hi Emm,

    Thanks for the great review. Was wondering if you've ever tried or heard of someone using the single with a Canon 5Dm3? maybe with a 50mm or even a 24-70? or would the weight be too much?

    Cheers!

  3. Hi Emm, stunning review thank you. Could you please tell me how these gimbals perform from a focus point of view ? I shoot weddings on 2 GH4's and almost always shoot manual focus. when you are moving around and shooting tight and then wide are the cameras struggling to focus or are you supposed to be shooting wide. I use the amazing Z1 Pround gimbal with my GoPro 4k black edition and obviously the GoPros are just constantly in focus so the footage is awesome.The GoPros are rubbish in low light hence why I am nibbling at the Came TV gimbal for indoor use,
    Thank you :)

  4. Tim

    @Emm - I have a GH4 + metabones speedbooster + Sigma 30mm which altogether weighs roughly 1.2 kg. Would this be too heavy for the Came Single to perform at it’s best and if so, what problems would I find?

  5. Emm

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    @Tim - I would say that setup wouldn't allow the gimbal to perform at it's best. You may run into issues when tilting the camera too far up or down since you have to pull it back so far to balance it properly.

  6. Minh

    Thank you so very much. LOL about the hand. That all i need to know that it will work, the Mini lock is the same as the pistol.

  7. Emm

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    @Minh - My hand was purposely in the way, trying to be discreet about it. But to answer your question, it mounts, it locks, and even the joystick works. It just gets awkward when you have to set the unit down somewhere.

  8. Minh

    Thanks emm. They have no problem selling me these parts. I already asked them and they gave me quote but i dont want to buy then find out that it's not compatible or i should have order other parts. Since you have both you can test for me and im going to order parts or you tell me what work and dont work so i can better prepare it.

    I asked them to buy the whole Mini 2 handle include the joystick and the Pan motor lock. The pan motor lock of the single from the pistol grip. What i am worry about is that the Locking is different between the single and the mini 2. If they are the same then it goden. just need the electronic board inside to match up with the single for power and controller.

    So base on the picture, my theory is correct right? sorry your hand kinda in the way.Thank you so very much Emm

  9. Minh

    Emm i love your blog. any time i look for answer or to make a decision bying gears i always go to your site for review thank you so very for all the information.

    I need to ask you a favor since you are the only one who can do it.

    Im looking to have the cametv single mounted to the Dual handle of the mini 2. I asked Cametv but from language barrier i make sure it get the right information from you instead.

    Cam you please test to see if you can mount the Single wihout the battery grip to the CameTV mini2 handle. i want to convert the single to a dual handle when need it and going back to sing when situation require. If it dont work please let me know what dont work so i can find a way to see if i can make it work. if you can do a video that would be great. Thank you Emm

  10. Emm

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    @Art Sanchez - It can, but you just need to make sure you balance it correctly while it's off. Sometimes you have to get creative and add a bit of weight.

  11. I have all three hand held gimbal systems. Using a GH4 and a 12mm lens as well as a 12-35mm lens, I have jitter with all three, which is very obvious when playing back 4k footage. The jitter appears just like what I see on Dave Dougdale's site. He seemed to be unable to get rid of it and has been silent on the matter ever since.

    What is the remedy? Will Warp Stabilizer or any other software remove jitter? My jitter occurs during movement. If the camera is still, there is no jitter. Is Jitter the bad ass secret of all hand held gimbal systems or can it be completely overcome?

  12. Emm

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    @oz - Adding a mic to the shoe on a small gimbal will not allow it to perform at it's best. You may want to look at a larger gimbal.

  13. oz

    I run a separate sound setup but in certain situations will have a Sennheiser G3 or video mic mounted to the hot shoe.

    I am looking to get one of these for my upcoming A7sii and was curious if either unit was louder than the other in terms of operation.

    Also, are there any new contenders I should be aware of?

    Thanks for the review.

  14. David

    My Came-tv Single got delivered today. It took a couple of moments to balance the A7s with the Sony 10-18mm f4. Straight away I was able to fly with very steady shots. No real issues.

    Just one difference from your review. The battery is not replaceable on my version.

    If I were being a bit picky, there's a few things I would change on this to make it the "perfect" device.

    #1. When changing profile, the high pitch confirmation sound is very loud. I'd like to be able to set it either very low or silent. So for now, changing profiles during wedding ceremony is a complete no-no.

    #2. The handle is a little uncomfortable to hold. My hands are not small and It feels quite big in my hands.

    #3. The joystick control should be put on the back beside my thumb rather than on the front of the handle at my index finger.

    #4. I'd like to be able to fly it in inverted mode.

    #5. The supplied mounting plate needs to be used. It would be nice to be able to mount my own plate system but they don't really play well together.

  15. Tony Yates

    Thanks - I missed that mention of the 16-35 on the Came-tv website. On the basis of that I have ordered one today.

  16. Emm

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    @Tony Yates - It will work with A7s and 16-35 FE. There is a video they have on their page that was shot with that setup.

  17. Tony Yates

    I was wondering if I could use the Sony A7S camera with the sony FE 16-35 lens on the Came single. When I weigh it it comes in at around 2.5lbs which is just within the maximum stated in the specs. However I have read elsewhere that the A7S with 16-35 is too heavy for these type of stabilisers.

  18. Emm

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    #Rafi - I was looking at it, but scared to take things apart right now. It's the only one I have and I have to keep it working (for now).

  19. Rafi

    Hi mrchessycam, can there any option to rotate the rool frame that the gh4 sit on it to be able open flip lcd screen? My be inverted or somthing like that?
    If its can done im100% shure that youthe man to solved it

  20. Emm

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    @Graeme - I think it's too small. Even if you could stuff it and balance it, it wouldn't perform well.

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