Varavon BirdyCam Gimbal BTS Footage SF Meet

Yesterday I met up with SatoStudios to check out the new DJI Ronin Gimbal, so I decided to bring out the Varavon Birdycam as well to shoot a few BTS clips. This footage is shot with a GH4 camera and although I find this footage to be incredibly smooth, I believe that I will have to tune up some of the PID settings to get best results on this super lightweight setup.

What you see in the video is still using the existing profile that was shipped with the unit, but it may be time to dig a little deeper. Since the Varavon uses the same Alexmos 32 bit software as the other gimbals, I can create my own custom settings. [BTW, you should not attempt this unless you know what you are doing].

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23 thoughts on “Varavon BirdyCam Gimbal BTS Footage SF Meet

  1. Emm

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    @Alex - I'm only having issues with the GH4 because the PID settings are too high (set for a heavier camera). I just shot a quick demo how to lower the values and now it works perfectly with the GH4. I am uploading right now.

  2. Awesome demo, Emm! I'm surprised to hear that you're having issues with the gh4 being too light. I'm curious to know if you think this would fly an FS100 with a pancake lense? I'm thinking of switching to a GH4, but not totally certain I want to let the sony go. Might be better to just make some more money and add a GH4 to my lineup if I can fly the FS for now. Thanks for all that you do man.


  3. Emm

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    @LynnPark - Well, you have to be really careful about playing with PID settings. Make sure you save the existing profiles and screenshot every original setting. (I made backups already of these profiles myself).

    So if you're working with a lightweight camera, try these setting in the Birdycam. I was getting the same oscillations on my lightweight setup until I lowered all of the "P" and "D" settings. Watch this video too:

  4. LynnPark

    @Emm many thanks. When I get the replacement unit and booted it up, there was a continuous grinding sound that was coming off of the motor after powering it on (and after balancing).

    After I hit the click-6 for recalibration, it stopped but then started again. I've been in touch with Tim and he's going to help me customize the PID settings but I don't have a PC (been Mac only for the last 10 years). Working on borrowing one.

    Tim mentioned that unit was balanced/setup with a Canon and BlackMagic setup so it's too light, hence the motor churning thing.

    Praying we can get this thing setup correctly as I've loved the footage I've been seeing from everyone.

  5. Emm

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    Jon Aleksander – Happy Wedding Films - I have not had the chance to run it for an hour straight, but I think that's a pretty easy task for the included battery. I would run it on and off throughout the day and the battery indicator barely dropped. This also depends on the camera you are flying, i'm working with a lighter camera so less power is required. Once you start tuning your PID settings you could add more power to the system to support heavier cameras, or tune it to use less power for smaller cameras.

  6. Emm

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    @Patrick - Yes it would carry the load, but it depends on your Arm and Vest. You have to have the right 'weight load' over any ISO arm for the springs to work effectively.

  7. Patrick


    quick question on the website of varavon it appears it could be used with a steadicam.

    Does this really effectively work?


  8. I've already sent out an email to Tim from Varavon about the battery capacity supplied with Birdycam but he has not responded yet. Can someone enlighten me how long does the Birdycam run with the supplied battery? Can I also hookup an aftermarket Lipoly 16V or some other battery?

    i would need the rig to run at least 1 hour, is this possible?

  9. Emm

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    @Curtis - I'm thinking if I can get one of my larger lenses balanced, it should be the same. Let me find time to work on these things, but I always try to share my findings.

  10. Curtis

    @Emm - It's a heavier lens than most of the other Panasonic glass, but nowhere near 35mm or APS-C glass. I'm hoping it won't be too tricky to balance, but again any guidance you can provide to a gimbal newbie would be appreciated. Thanks for all the great content you post.

  11. Emm

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    @Curtis - Whoa, I don't have the 7-14mm and I hear it has some good weight to it. I think I may need to get this lens to setup proper PID settings.

  12. Curtis

    @Emm I'd love to get the ideal PID settings for the GH3/GH4. I put in a preorder for the the Birdycam via BHPHOTO, but haven't received it yet, but when I do I'm planning to fly the GH3/GH4 with it along with the Panasonic 7-14mm lens most likely. It'll be my first gimbal so any tips would be infinitely helpful.

  13. Emm

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    @LynnPark - As mentioned in the article, I am not getting the best results with my lightweight GH4 setup. I will tune the PIDs. So you do you have a Birdycam and planning to fly a GH4? Let me know what setup you have, maybe I can share my PID settings for this when i'm done.

  14. LynnPark

    @Emm Thanks for the vids! best instructional to date.

    did it automatically work with the Panasonic GH4 and Rokinon lens? i noticed your first one was the Canon. I got the 2nd replacement version from Varavon and trying to locate a PC so Tim can help me adjust the PID settings as he says it's too light (been having a mean grinding sound problem when booted on etc, unresponsive).

    Just wondering if yours worked out of the box or if anyone else has had this problem.

  15. Emm

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    @tim morris - Final design. This is one of the first batches or preorders being filled. I guess next batches will come later as they don't have enough.

  16. tim morris

    One more question? Was the Ronin a pre-production model or a final design? I have been hearing that the Ronin's will ship Mid August?

  17. Emm

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    @tim morris - I think the Ronin is one of the best products on the market 'IF' you have a need to support a big camera around the size of a C100 or larger. For DSLR or smaller cameras I think I personally would prefer a smaller and lighter gimbal.

    I hope that DJI will follow up with a smaller system. I'm sure they sell more phantom quadcopters than the larger multicopters, so it goes to show how much of a market there is for smaller video camera systems.

  18. tim morris

    After viewing the Ronin, what was your take.I hear that DJI shaved a pound or two of the final design to make the unit 5 1/2 pounds vs the initial 7 pounds. The rumor mill has indicated that they switched the metal desgin of the handle bars. Not sure if this is true.

    What do you think of the entire setup and the auto calibration features, weight, thumb remote etc. I preodered the Ronin and we are waiting on it to be shipped out.

  19. Emm

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    @Ruud - We ride a few different electric longboards. Mostly a combination of E-Glide or Yuneec Ego boards.

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