Flycam Nano Stabilizer Abused with 7D + Tokina

I know I know. You're sick of hearing about the Nano and I said I wasn't going to show any sample footage of this uber cheap video stabilizer with the 7D + Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8. My first video was to show people that it does work with this weight, and I think I did accept a challenge. Every few minutes someone is saying it won't work because the weight would exceed what is listed on the product specs. Well after I shot the last video showing it was balanced, it worked so well, I had to do an example. In fact, I think some of you would be upset if you didn't see this next video. It handles superbly at this weight, and it can carry more. Believe me, i've played with many stabilizers. For something so cheap i'm surprised at the handling in this next video where I abuse the #$%^& out of it. I throw it around, spin it, whip it, whatever I could do to shake it around. Just to show there's no camera tricks, I threw a mirror in the studio. You can hear the wind pass the camera microphone as I toss the unit forward and back. Warning, it's quite dizzying footage but I wanted to show something more than just a casual walk. The demo stabilizer video was also shot in one take so there's no picking out just the 'nice footage'. This is a real look into how this thing flies with the Canon 7D + Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8.


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find-price-button Tokina 11-16mm Wide Angle Zoom

And since I know there will be additional questions about the Canon 5D Mark II, I balanced that too. The Tokina 11-16mm doesn't work on the full frame camera, so I threw on the Sigma 20mm F/1.8. This combination is actually lighter than the 7D + Tokina combo, so I needed to move the post higher up (making it less bottom heavy). The weights and all the configuration was still basically the same and I only needed to move the post upwards by about an inch.

And who ever threw me the challenge, let me know if this qualifies as a win? LOL. Check out the related article here: http://cheesycam.com/canon-7d-tokina-11-16mm-will-she-fly/

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83 thoughts on “Flycam Nano Stabilizer Abused with 7D + Tokina

  1. jonathan

    hey, i loved this video but i have a question, do you think a 7d and a canon 24-105mm would swing it on the nano? its about 400 grams heavier, id just like to know if it would stay steady and safe like the 11-16 thanks!

  2. Emm

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    @Ben Epstein - I've never went skiing with a Flycam, but the Flycam Nano should work with that setup.

  3. Ben Epstein

    Just a quick question: I'm planning on filming skiing which can get kinda bumpy. Would you still recommend the flycam nano for my 7D + Tokina 12-24 or should i go with the Flycam dslr?

    Thanks!

    Ben

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  5. I know tahoeskiphoto asked something like this already.

    If I will be shooting some moving shots behind skiers going 20-30ish mph, would a flycam work at all? I don't know anything about fig rigs so...

    I tried my cowboystudio shoulder rig going pretty slow and it was unbearable.

    P.S.
    I can always stabilize it in post with AE if there is slight wobble from wind, but IDK how easily the thing would tilt.

  6. Emm

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    @Saby - The Glidecam HD1000 would do it, the Glidecam HD2000 is you plan on mounting accessories.

  7. Saby

    Hi - I have Canon 7D with tokina 11-16 2.8, canon 17-55mm f2.8 and 70-200mm F4 IS heavy weight lenses, just wanted to make sure whether this flycam nano will be able to handle these lenses weight, i know you mentioned tokina 11-16mm works but what about 17-55mm f2.8 which is heavier than tokina and even Canon 70-200mm IS is also heavy, what do you think , should i invest in flycam nano or Glidecam HD1000 /2000 make sense???

  8. Tee

    you are killing my wallet man.... stop posting this kick ass stuff and making me spend money I don't have... haha. Thanks man... now my kids won't eat next week...dammit!

    πŸ˜‰

  9. Great work,
    Just proves that sometimes you can get a cheap tool and find a way to make it work. I, for example hate all types of shoulder rigs with DSLRs, I have tried expensive and cheap ones but it is just not the tool for me.

    ItΒ΄s about getting the right combo for you.

    Greetings.

  10. How do you balance the camera? How heavy is your bottom? Total weight of bottom vs total weight camera (camera + lens should weigh around 1.2-1.3kg)

  11. Manny

    I read all the comments and love it. Now I just need to know where I go to order it? Help please thank you πŸ™‚

  12. AlanG

    Emm, thanks so much man. I know this is an old review. But because your review, I just ordered my flycam nano.( my first stabilzer)
    I'm new to this so your site has really helped out a bunch.

    My combo is gripped 60d w/ 17-40mm L. I'll see if the nano can handle the extra weight the grip.. **crossing finger**

  13. Emm,

    I know you can't address every possible body/lens combo out there, but I thought I would ask about the 7D + Canon 16-35/2.8 combo. A lot of photojournalists I know (who are transitioning to video) have a 16-35 in their bag and it would be great if the Flycam Nano worked with it.

    Thanks!

  14. Aaron

    Emm,
    For some reason, I couldn't get the lock washer to work. I ended up cutting a small piece of those anti-slippery mat and my camera no long slips. My weights on the bottom is (for some reason) always come loose and the lock washer works like a charm there.

    FYI: Since I don't know what that pentagon piece of plastic is for, so I emailed Flycam's customer support and they point me to this video. Very interested video that also show how to balance a flycam:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxQRdhEcd9Y

  15. Aaron

    Emm:I just got the flycam nano and I am having the same problem with Edin where the camera is coming loose. I put the washer (came with the package) and screw it onto the base plate but the problem persists. I know they included a pentagon plastic piece, is that suppose to help with the sliding of the camera? If so, how do I install that?

    btw, have you flew the nano with the 60d+tokina 11-16 combo? What weight did you use to balance it?

    Thx again for the site. I check it daily for updates. If there isn't anything there, it feels like "where is my cup of coffee this morning?" πŸ™‚

  16. EDIN AZIZ

    @Emm - Cool. I was thinking of drilling thru, replacing the screw and adding a nut at the other end.

  17. Emm

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    @Edin - I added a lock washer so that I can put more tension against that screw, and prevent it from coming loose.

  18. EDIN AZIZ

    @Emm, have you noticed how wobbly the baseplate beneath the slow-release is? The plate going directly into pole. It does have a little screw beneath it to tighten it, but man it really sucks and doesn't help much.. If I put the flycam down, with the camera mounted, and try budging the camera, it slightly moves back and forth. I'm considering soldering it or strengthening it somehow.

  19. Emm

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    @Luke - Yes I have videos of me flying a 2000 Pro. The flycam would work best without the grip. Not sure if it would handle the grip lifting the weight higher from the gimbal.

  20. Luke

    Emm, Have you ever used the glidecam 2000 pro. I loved it because it was rock solid but therein lies the problem! it weighed way too much. At the time i was using a Canon hv20, canon wide angle lens, and a rode video mic.

    I switched to a Hague MMC which was much lighter but you can't safely fly with it because of Hague gimble design.. ( I was leaving the hosptial after my second son was born. and was filming my wife getting into the car. A Gust of wind and my rig tip over and completely fell off. I got real lucky I caught it before it hit the ground)

    6 months- 1 yr later I was balancing a Flip HD camera with the MMC, when i realized I never had the previous rig correctly balanced!

    So my question now is... IYHO is it possible to balance a 7D with battery grip, tokina 11-16, rode video mic on a FLY CAM?

  21. What do you think gives you the best stabilization between the nano and the flycam 5000? I have a 7D. Also with the flycam 5000 and magic arm and vest, does it make a really big difference to have the spring arm and vest? Thanks.

  22. manuele

    ok i just ordered too because i was not very satisfied of the turkish mid-x stadycam. I hope the flycam nano will be better. I also would like to order the tokina 11-16 but it's expensive.. πŸ™

  23. Namti

    Hi Emm,thanks for the great review.

    Do you think canon 550d + canon 17-55 f2.8 would fly well on Flycam Nano? They are lighter than 7D + Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8, but I'm concerned because 17-55(weighs 645g) is too heavier than other lenses, even heavier than 550d. So it might not be balanced with 550d on Flycam Nano.

    What do you think?

  24. Emm

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    @TahoeSkiPhotos - hmm. You might be able to just get away with a fig rig. The wind might cause drifting with a nano. Check out those PVC fig rig designs that skaters use, cost you like 5 dollars. Get a good wide lens too it will appear more steady. I would try that first you might be surprised.

  25. TahoeSkiPhotos

    Emm, I'm looking for a stabilizer for my Nikon D7000 and 18-200 (3.5 lbs) to use while skiing. Would this be a good fit? Do you need to have two hands on the stabilizer all the time? Is it easy to angle the camera up and down while on the stabilizer?

    Thanks for the Reviews!!

  26. SVPxJERRY

    @Tony There actually are videos on how to balance similar style stabilizers like the nano. I just watched all the videos I could find on YouTube/blogs while waiting for the nano to come in and when it did, it was alot easier than I thought. I think the most important factor was which hole to use on the plate. Make sure the camera is as centered on the plate as much as possible, even if it's the farthest hole to left/right. It'll make the start of balancing alot easier.

  27. Wolfie

    Emm, the Canons weight 400gms each, 800 total. That is about 500 less than your 7D Tokina example. Now the bracket to mount them side by side could be 250 grams, therefore 1050 total, still under your test. Interesting. Wolfie

  28. Marco

    Emm, I'm just wondering if it can works with the 7D + lens + Rode VideoMic. Do you think it can handle that weight? As lens I usually use a prime (Canon 50mm or Nikon 24mm).

  29. Tony

    Just got mine today and all I can say is I'm pretty frustrated. "almost" got my HFS100 with Wide lens balanced and couldn't do crap with my 550D, battery grip and Tamron 17-50mm....

    I know it's all user related, but it sure would be nice if there was a video tutorial on how to balance correctly.

  30. SVPxJERRY

    Great video as always. Received my nano yesterday. This is my time using any kind of stabilizer and it only took me about 10-15 mins to balance it with a 60D and Tokina 12-24. Shot some test videos around the house and it came out pretty nice. I just need to practice rotating and keeping the camera from spinning when I make fast turns/movements. Do you pretty much keep your left hand on the rod all the time?

  31. J Toha

    Thanks for the review and showing us that it works, Emm πŸ™‚ True to your word indeed.

    Now for Christmas, I'm really confused. A new sound recorder or...this? :O

    By the way, I've heard reports that Tokina 11-16mm can be used on a full frame DSLR, just that the focal length must be set at least at 15mm point to avoid the ugly vignetting. This potentially makes it 2nd widest 'full frame' lens after Canon 14mm, I guess.

  32. Tracy

    Do you think the nano will hold a 60d and mic? If not do you have a suggestion?

    Thanks for the work you do here. It has been very helpful.

  33. Emm

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    @stephendiaz - I'm still looking into QR Adapters, but the common cheap one would be a Manfrotto RC2

  34. Emm

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    @Aaron - The Merlin was one of my first stabilizers......umm, I sold it. Let's leave it at that. LOL.

  35. Awesome! I cam back to cheesycam to find some more info if this would work with a 7D/Tokina and low and behold it was the first video! Love all your reviews man keep up the great work!

    Oh... and I'm definitely picking up the wolf shirt!

  36. I love watching the glimpses of you in the mirror, you obviously have a lot of experience with steady-cam work... or just talented πŸ˜‰

  37. Thanks for doing all this for sure, especially trying the 5D too!
    But what I really wanted the video of is someone else recording you running around the studio haha :p

  38. Aaron

    how would you rate this compared to the merlin? I just bought a merlin but for the price difference should I sell it buy this nano and get the tokina? im using a 7d

  39. Wolfie

    Would this work with 2 Canon Vixia HF20's next to each other to shoot 3d. Each cam weighs about 1 lb, but that's less than the 7d and lens you tested. Would the width of the 2 cams cause any issues? Given my name and 3 in my family seems like the 3 Wolf shirt is pretty appropriate? Wolfie

  40. Emm

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    @GettoLapse Kid - LOL, good catch. Damn internet radio... I had to keep the audio just to show it was all in real time.

  41. Emm

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    @rbg - I would buy that brace after if you think you need it, I don't use them. I recommend a healthy diet and good exercise, and a three wolf and a moon t-shirt. LOL.

  42. Emm

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    Actually not really a perfect formula, but I might set the F stop at around 5.6-6.3 minimum. Of course a wider lens will have a closer focal point than a zoom lens so things look sharper. With a further focal length, things up close will look soft. Its why I recommend using a wider lens.

  43. Hey Emm, thanks again for this precious find. I order a nano last night. What setting do you usually set your camera to when flying around? You are very experienced with these stabilizers so I'm sure you have your settings down to a perfect formula. πŸ™‚

  44. How are you keeping everything in focus emm? Just high F-stop?
    Would you recommend one of those ARM BRACES to help out with prolonged shoots? I'm a 60D w/ Tamron 17-50. Obviously would be shooting as wide as possible.

  45. GhettoLapse Kid

    I don't think anyone noticed, but I found it funny that you were listening to Greyson Chance singing Gaga. HA!

    I'm definitely picking up a nano.

  46. Emm, that was, in a word, wicked! Dancing with the Flycam Nano should be a regular program. You make it look effortless. Definitely sold me on it as a good stabilizer.

    Thanks!

  47. yeah, you sold me! i love my steadycam jr but i think i might double up on this one for the d7000 which is pretty light. thanks for these reviews, your my one trusted source for product purchases....your like the hd dlsr "consumer reports" for me!

  48. Joe

    @ORyan Nice noticing that.

    @Emm Are you getting paid from the Nano manufacturer? Hmm.. that was a great review.

  49. Marco

    Unbelievable it works so well! the camcorders weighing should be up to 700grm, the 7D alone is 900gr with battery. I'm now wondering what kind of lens would be the limit.

    Thank you for posting this video!

  50. ORyan

    Wow that thing does handle pretty well.

    On a side note, i have noticed in a few of your videos that there is a weird effect in your videos when there is a good deal of motion. I never really paid attention to it but since you are moving so much in this video it's really noticeable.

    it seems as though there's some frame blending going on. there is some heavy ghosting in the motion blur. It could be from re-sampling 30fps to 24fps or something like that and your editor app has frame blending turned on or something. If you hit pause on the video in a moment of high motion you should see it. 1:42 is a good example.

    I know i was getting that problem in premiere pro for a while and i couldn't figure it out for the life of me what was going on. I had to right click on each of the clips and disable frame blending.

    I didn't know if you noticed it or not.

  51. Nice! If the 7D and that lens flies that well on there, my 60D and Tamron 17-50f2.8 should work pretty well. Unless I try to rig a Z96 light and a Lilliput on there or something...LOL. Actually, that's a good test.

    Ordered a nano today. How long are people seeing shipping to the US take from India?

    BTW the Gini Rig is in the house! Shot a brief unboxing but it's long and boring, needs to be cut down, then I gotta assemble the thing. Ha.

  52. Very Nice.
    Ill have to grab one for my 7D. Should I just send you an invoice?...you are the reason why Im buying everything you have been reviewing. lol

  53. Greg

    At what length do you think a stabilizer like this would become ineffective? Would footage from a 50mm on a crop camera still appear stabilized?

  54. Emm

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    @Brian - possibly, but I wouldn't personally use that lens. No way to zoom or focus while flying, so just stick to prime lens. Wide lenses also help mask movement too.

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